Frequently Asked         

                Question and Answers  

 

1) Do aluminum heat reflectors work for home owners? 

    They claim R-4 and are on ebay and home stores for $5 to $9 and up per 4ft x 8ft.panel?

 

Answer- No. It isn't illegal to claim a test shows some R value because that is not a claim about the product, but about

a test result. The values reported to the government are never this high for such thin materials, especially Aluminum

which has 200 times the thermal conductivity of ceramics. They simply trap air.  That is why they are almost always

attached to inexpensive open cell thin foams for vertical uses. The combination dampens the peak heat spots and fills

in the cold spots. When less variation is present, there is less heat lost in a building.  From THAT point of view they

do work, but the point is that the claims made by the manufacturer do not mean what the home owner may think that

they mean, and that is poor quality assurance.

 

2) Can't R values be calculated from the conductivity of a material instead of tests?

 

Answer - Not very accurately.  The idea of R values  began because science could not separate the radiative

component outside from the other components that exist on the outside of a material and it’s environment.

All materials  have  capacities to absorb heat.  This results from mass.  Mass can also ‘reflect’ heat which results

from it's density, surface finish and temperature change and wetness or wind currents relative to the other surfaces.

In  ways similar to reflection it can radiate heat at various wavelengths and velocities. The only simple way to

combine everything into one single non-dimensional unit was to make some simple assumptions.  Because of heat

reflection, the expected temperature a given distance from a hot body is not always the inverse square root of the unit

distances. (1/d^2). When near a reflecting body, the measured temperature shows a near field effect where a zone of

constant temperature heat surrounds the radiating material.  That is the only difference between “reflected” heat and

radiated heat, and it is only noticed near the heat source, not the reflector. That is the temperature change is noticed.

The infrared waves can be measured at the reflector surface as emissivity or infrared. These are waves about 1 micro-

 meter in wavelegth. The spherical ceramics have millions of tiny spheres this same size that react to this radiation.  It would pass right

through ordinary insulation. Even state studies like Florida State’s have concluded that any radiant barrier will increase R

values form 19 to 30. But for higher temperature differences such as colder climates, a better barrier is needed as infrared

radiation becomes more difficult to stop by the fourth power of the temperature differences.

 

 

 

3)  You have read the literature and can see that the heat barriers claim to reflect 90 percent of the radiated heat that

hits them, then how do you explain that? 

 

Answer- Reflection mostly happens when a radiated heat 'ray' hits a surface at an angle.

Snell’s law explains what happens next, but it depends if the surface is partly transparent to the ray.

If it is, more of the ray as a percentage is reflected if it enters at a right angle from matter below.

If it is not, more of the ray is often absorbed, even if the first surface is reflective, if the first surface

does not permit some transmittance to the second surface. Heat follows laws of optics and sound.

This can happen near large warmly radiating I-beams in steel frame buildings and where thin reflective barrier

is draped like a curtain on the ceiling between bays and other support members.  This use of a polished surface

is also good for visible light reflection, which is probably the most valid reason for its use in barns and industrial buildings.

It is not really intended for residential use because the silvery surface will grow old and rough in an attic space where it

would degrade by moisture, mildew and exposure  instead of hanging downward from the ceiling, trapping air and

reflecting radiation from the thick slab below and heavy steel I-beams. Our product’s silvery surface is encapsulated by

a heat transmitting first surface layer.

 

4)  So are 'R values'  just the results of tests of heat passing through material?

Answer:

No, they are based on very old (1920 bureau of standards hot plate tests at 68 deg. F) research that showed that a

single pane of glass at  has an R value of .9434, and half inch plaster and tile has an R value of 3.33 and 12 inch of

sawdust is 40 and so on. These are total R values.   Then 1/R times the temperature differential should give the BTU's

required for partitions of one square foot under these same conditions. A btu is about as much heat as comes from

burning a match. It may be confused with BTU which is shorthand for 1000 btu’s. One major complaint has been that

multiplying temperature differential by 1/R gives BTUs but ignores specific heat. Of course, some people know that

it takes 0.17 BTUs to heat air one degree, but the standard for one degree change is water. These days, if a material

has an R value, it just means it absorbs and re-radiates heat. Newer materials such as paints and additives do not fit into the

same conceptual framework, or lack of it. When Joseph Black first distinguished between Q (BTUs heat flux) in 1760

and Temperature, he failed to give a framework for comparing heat flux that results in temperature changes in different

materials. Hence converting to or from air temperature results in non-linear and unpredictable estimates and does

nothing to account for conditions such as instability and/or boiling caused by reverse heat fluxes that exist wherever

changes in the emissivity of materials interface with high Q values. One BTU of flux is supposed to raise one pound

of water by one degree Fahrenheit. The science is built around boiler technology ,not the heating of air and wood

and insulation foam found in building materials these 243 years later.

 

You can see why people prefer more simple but less accurate metrics. It also allows them to size their furnace

or boiler, since they will need 5.88 times more heat to make the system work. The bonus is, it sounds efficient and

even economical when in fact it is not, but that is good for business. The truth is that we simply don’t know if we

should divide by 5.88 before putting in the temperature values or after. The results are not the same, but that is

consistent with the talk about ‘non-linearity’. What we mean is that you must know the entire system’s composition

when radiation is used, including the source and medium if water or gas. Thus, it seems best to divide after finding

the net heat flux if we know we are dealing with air radiation. Since the newest measurement technology- heat flux

meters – can only measure flux across a small distance, we still don’t know all the answers to these old questions.

Even the manufacturers of these science class radiometers don’t know what values to assign to their indications of

energy. Grays? joules? joules per second? BTU’s? Your guess is as good as mine. If you use F=MA and you know the

mass, you can assume the air coming from the black plate is at the speed of sound. It’s a complex calculation involving

the coefficient of friction, but if anyone out there wants to take a stab at it, write to us and let us see the results.

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Up to 16 RPM can be stopped on this radiometer by two radiant scrims black behind

white coated. The white must be non-organic based or sand. This is without wrapping

the foil around the bulb of the radiometer, allowing ambient light to circumvent the barrier.

[300 watts of light bulbs behind a 1/8 inch white glass diffuser lens ; distance = 2 feet.] The air

that the radiation is reflected into has too low a specific heat – some solid matter must interact and

diffuse the reflected infrared radiation to be effective, and this may result in convection.

 

Over the years, R value has come to mean about 3 or 4 per inch of thickness for most insulation products, with closed

cell foams having a little better than that when new. The best way is to test a one inch thickness is by finding the

change in temperature of two surfaces and knowing the amount of heat put into a hotplate, calculate the equivalent

total R value on your stovetop. A brick should have an R value of about 2 (per sq.ft) for a 4 inch brick, but anything

will work as long as you use it as a standard. A’ K value’ is the part of the R value due to convection and radiation

which are always present when a surface interacts with air. Other brands of barriers work by introducing a low K value

to the surface receiving or radiating heat. Since the colder side contrasts with the cold air, radiation is drawn that way.

This is an advantage because the convection is not as violent as it would be on the lighter, lower density warm air side,

but also a disadvantage because a thin layer of warm air forms near the metal, causing some condensation. 

 

Of course radiation barrier materials work best if they can be on both such surfaces.  When dealing with reflective

horizontal surfaces, you cannot use only R values. You can however easily look at the measured temperatures as a

hot plates cools. The reason is that the heat source interacts with the insulation materials in ways that makes

outwards heat flow or flow toward cooler areas the most dominant flow. Just as the sun’s radiation is pulled away

from the source by the cold of space, it strikes the earth and the earth then radiates at a frequency that heats up

the air around the earth. Even light photons can change to a much longer wavelength wave after being scattered

by the atmosphere. Water in the soil absorbs infrared and re-radiates it. The water responds well because the

vibrational motion and twisting of the hydrogen to oxygen bonds is what is absorbing the infrared energy.

Carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas, reflects back the soil’s re-radiated heat because it finds molecules that do respond by absorbing

the water’s special infrared radiation wavelength. Since moist air is lighter than dry air, it rises up and is cooled by expansion,

keeping the atmosphere in a condition to pass it’s longer wave infrared through the dry air layers. The condensation after

cooling we get as rain. The carbon dioxide bonds strongly absorb some wavelengths of infrared (short ones ) and transmit

others (longer ones). If the frequency matches some transition of a charged particle or thermal phonon (an electronic rotational,

vibrational or quantum energy transition in the atoms or the bonds) it is absorbed, otherwise it may penetrate deeply or

be reflected if the surface is mirror like.

 

ALL INSULATION tries to reflect, and then scatter or change infrared radiation. It does this by converting from radiative transfer to

diffusion. At present surface ‘emissivity’ is used as a heuristic or a ‘rule of thumb’ concept not related to temperature. The higher

RELATIVE energy of the waves thus penetrate more deeply in a colder medium but that is not the same as saying higher

frequencies by themselves penetrate deeper. Emissivity assumes that what doesn’t bounce off must be absorbed, and

that is not exactly the whole story. But since re-radiation is low from the FIRST SURFACE of low emissivity materials,

that assumption is convenient for most discussion purposes.

 

The really important differences have to do with how very cold surfaces pull radiation into their dense core, well

beyond the surface penetration of ordinary infrared waves. This is called more specular versus diffuse radiation

transfer. Concrete and human body radiation are identical in wavelength (1/100,000 of a meter). This does mean

real consequences for human comfort when radiation barrier type insulation is used in cold weather situations.

It can deprive the human environment of this wavelength of heat if not properly engineered by retaining cold air

in layers of foam sometimes attached to the reflective film. While nothing cannot change the total energy absorbed

at a given wavelength, various factors change the frequency distribution to a more comfortable profile. Assuming  long wave

infrared on a clear day is fairly independent of temperatures from zero to 30 degrees centigrade, it is about 96 W/m2.

Now, average conduction of heat into the top surface is about 57 W/m2, assuming a soil density of 2.7 kg/m3 and specific

heat of 0.84 kJ/(kg.K)  The difference is a little more than half reflection, with latent heat the remaining  43 percent.

That means 23 percent of long infrared is reflected by soil. When the heat is in the soil, diffusivity is used to model the

‘cooling’ because no heat is being input and then specific heat becomes the controlling factor, more than the radiation

and temperature difference and other factors considered as ‘conductive’ versus heat ‘diffusivity’ or cooling mode transfer.

Actually at 32 deg Fahrenheit there is 107 Watts per square meter but at 59 degrees Fahrenheit there is only 92 Watts.

This is due to the effect of specular radiation mode versus warmer, more active molecular motion mode , more ‘diffuse’

(but not diffusive),  more scattered heat. Wein’s law would indicate that for the falling temperatures, there is more longer

waves, however frequencies must then decrease. The longer IR waves have more penetration power because they do not

match the usual energy levels of most materials. So, the sun’s filtered heat through the air’s molecular bonds redistributes the

sun’s profile by scattering and reflection, yet absorbs only selectively. The deep soil is at constant volume, or contained, and

thus air there has a much lower specific heat  or ability to retain heat, also making diffusivity or diffusion derived methods

an imperative. Such air at 32 F has 716 Joules/Kg per degree K versus the normal 1000 J/Kg*K. So sand and aerated soils

are better insulators than R values indicate. Another good example if you have an infrared non-contact thermometer, is to

measure the temperature of a thin .001” emergency blanket when it is taped to a cold window, about 35 degrees.

It will show almost room temperature( 65F). However, a mercury thermometer will show that surface to be about 55F.

Low thalpance materials will show an infrared reading of about 55F on both  it’s shiny side or white side. This is due to the more specular

narrow columnated beam sent out by the non-contact unit interacting with the specular, less diffuse reflections of the

uncoated blanket. The same will happen if a spot of Supertherm paint is applied, that area will then measure a much lower

temperature, on that same false reading 65F surface. This works best in the presence of morning sunlight with snow. In shade,

temperature differentials of 3 degrees are more common under the same conditions.

 

 

5) Why do some insulating materials block radiation and other do not?

Answer:

Let’s say that we have two square foot of iron to be heated 21.7 degree centigrade. The iron weighs 10 pounds.

It is an I-beam one foot long or a cooking pot on a stove. We know that then 1/R times the temperature differential

should give the BTU's required for partitions of one square foot. It would take 216 BTU’s to do the job based on

the specific heat of iron. 

 

So the R value is just 216 divided by 46.8 degrees Fahrenheit.  The R value is 4.6 to balance the equation so to speak.

We also know that the K value for iron or brick is 0.15.  That is heat loss due only to radiation and convection,

not conduction. Combining this information to show the system total U value we get .0886. Then 1/.0886 equivalent

required heat input is already up to R-11.28.  This is now heat input(U), not heat required   U=1/R.   The conducted

portion of 4.6 is only 40 percent of the total losses assuming the I-Beam contacts some other surface for 1 square

foot and this surface is holding steady at the starting temperature before heating up the I-beam.

 

 

Because most of the heat is lost by convection and radiation to the air by the second square foot, the surfaces of

those materials with less that R6.6 per inch thickness cannot stop this radiation.  It takes a very high insulation

R value, but this value may be a fairly thin membrane.  A system may be dominated by convection and radiation, like

a brick wall would be when it’s windy and raining outside.  This can raise the radiated/convected K factor by

3.8 times normal, depending on whether heat is being supplied (conducted) or it is passively cooling off (diffusivity).

 

That is why the combination of special materials that achieve a very high waterproof insulation value through

external reflection, scattered internal reflection and low re-radiation can be more than just important.  This can

only be done by combining the vacuum sputtering of just the right amount of metal on plastic with high gloss

finishes and Compton scattering ceramics. Other materials do something about the convected heat when they

are horizontal but they will not do as much if applied to the warm side airspace of a vertical brick wall, just where

our product is at it’s very best application advantages.

 

Only Thermcoating shows heat containment and isolation of the warm side from the cold side

even though the tested material is only a few square inches and the metal radiating body is

about 2 square feet.

 

Graph of Thermcoat hot plate tests and other similar products.  Higher lines are all The Thermcoat tests.

 

            Observable Hotplate Test

 

                                                          (Left) Aluminum foil with crystals 1800X

                                               

                                                              (Above)

Sputtered Aluminum with plastic coating. The crystals are imperfections that are now covered.

They would conduct 5 to 10 times more heat if left exposed than the surrounding smooth areas.

They would also allow speedy corrosion and oxidation to begin.

The plastic is transparent to a wide range of infrared frequencies.

 

                                                          (Left) Fine Ceramic 1450X

                                                           

 

6) Do you have any advice for anyone who wants to bag mineral or glass fibers and wants to buy

     low cancer risk materials to work with?

 

We believe that putting fibers in to a heat sealed  bag to form a pillow is better than letting

fibers loose in a ceiling or wall structure.  It is too easy for rodents and rats to access such materials.

The research is difficult to read and keep up with.  A recent study found that very similar fibers may

produce different results, but as many as 160 rats per 1000 developed cancer after exposure to thin

fibers.  There was some correlation with early irritation and later health problems.  Of course, it is

the thin fibers that are most likely to get into the air through wall spaces or when someone wants to

make a repair on any part of a wall or ceiling.  Our advice is to wear protective masks and wash

up well all clothes and body parts after heat sealing any fibers.  Do this work outside where fibers left

lying around can biodegrade early. We will bag or seal. Email your requirements. In summer 2003 Cabot

has announced it will begin making aerogel beads at affordable prices. For vertical walls we recommend using

them or else vapor expanded polystyrene and third choice extruded polystyrene. For horizontal walls we

 recommend using Argon, available at any gas welding supply store. See the physics of heat page for more information.                      

                                                            Sealing Wand/Iron

7) Do you have any calculations for earth burm walls?

 

I have an idea of using snow as insulation combined with earth burm structures, especially if you design for it before

building the burm. Remember that polystyrene and polyurethane foams have poor weathering characteristics,

but having said that, I’ll assume you have a pit to catch snow. I also assume you don’t want to keep shoveling show into

the pit every day. The average winter day in Boston is 6 degrees centigrade above zero (freezing) so snow will slowly melt.

So, to offset variations in weekly weather, we can try to block out 6 degrees centigrade and possibly use extruded  foam as

movable covering insulation material if the weather stays warm for too many days.

Tests show extruded foam panels absorb no water all all, but expanded Styrofoam does absorb water.

 

Shock models show the promise of low thalpance materials best. Three inches of Styrofoam at 2.0 lbf per cubic

foot would have a 35 minute shock half time, Polyurethane foam 3.3 hours and paraffin wax 17.8 hours to reach half it’s

ultimate stable temperature.

 

In this case we want the cold to penetrate the top layer of that foot wide earth wall so that the snow barrier can act

as insulation against losses below the frost point. It’s a bit tricky. But, at one foot depth average soil has a diffusivity of

.00000048 square meters per second, and thus one foot deep it varies only 1.35 degrees Fahrenheit on an average diurnal

(daily) time basis. It takes 10 hours for this thermal shock to penetrate to the one foot depth. Whenever temperatures are

below the freezing mark, you will save money on fuel bills. The well should not be very deep, because frost penetrates

during the non-snow covered winter. It does not have to be very deep to get the benefits of snow insulation, but at least

1 foot wide and 8 inches deep to give 1 hour shock value half time.

 

There is a difference between an extreme thermal shock and a gentle sine wave change. The shock uses the square of the

distance in centimeters while the sine wave change uses only the distance in centimeters. These models are both diffusivity

derived models. The first model, the shock model tells you how long it takes at that depth from the heated surface before it

reaches half of whatever temperature it will eventually reach at some future time, assuming the heat source stays constant.

The second model, or sine wave, tells you how many seconds pass before that heat flux or cold snap peaks at that depth.

The Wave model is very slow variation- 24 hours peak to peak. (.001 inch =.00254 cm)  

                                T Seconds                      T Seconds                                    Equivalent

                                Radiation-instant          Variation –24 hour cycle           Thickness

                                Shock model                  Wave model                              To Damp 24 hr.

                                cm *cm* factor              cm * factor                              Cycle to 6 deg. C

Polystyrene fm           41                                       874                                       16.3

Air                                  4.78                                  186                                       14.0

Argon                            5.56                                  195                                        13.3

Polyurethane fm       226                                    1,172                                          7.25

Soil average              217                                    1,197                                          2.18

Snow average              8.875                              1,422                                          1.84

Parrafin                       1103.0                               2,622                                          1.00

 

A Word About Special R Values

Caution is advised when considering the hybrid R values too. Today, those firms that wish to be supportive of insulation that has poor shock

characteristics (like ‘paint additives’) would sell the buyer a ‘Mass enhanced R value’ or an ‘Effective R value’. They reason that as the temperature

difference across the wall is reversed, the heat flow is also reversed. Actually, unless there is extreme differences, the flow of heat is always

taking place in all directions as well as in several other ‘degrees of freedom’ that depend on the shape of the molecules or atoms conducting the heat.

As you can see from the table above, the reversed flow some try to champion is also delayed and at a very small depth, here .012 inches to 16.3 times

.012 or .195 inches (a fifth of an inch) . There, two thirds of the original Tambient – Tinitial temperature variation has already been diffused by the

diffusivity i.e. conductivity/(specific heat* density) ratio of an intended insulating material or thermal barrier covering even the most mediocre

insulation. Furthermore, careful reading of their analysis shows that the ‘changed’ R value only is valid when the outside temperature crosses over

the inside temperature, or when there is some doubtful equipment efficiency factored in, as if the same effect would not be there if we did not know

about delayed onset of peak air conditioning equipment demand times. So, Caveat Emptor: Buyer Beware.

Then too R-value does not indicate if such value was obtained in vertical and/or horizontal positions. It’s not that the horizontal value is always better

either, because a vertical test can allow radiated heat that strikes the first surface and is converted by convection into warm rising air to go up and out

the cold box cold air supply side drain or simply collect undetected. Any value that is added in or onto a test probably means the test itself was biased.

There simply is no single test value that truly indicates a system’s ability to block all forms of heat in all installation situations and conditions.

As we attempt to show on these pages, calculation done right is foolproof . This air convects and either contains heat or rejects

it out of the measured areas. A science text book gives linear values for glass batting to be 1.7 times  that of air which is .000057 calories/cm * sec*C.

If air was really R-6 as some internet sites claims, then other insulation values become higher, none of which would be due to radiated heat

blocking or reflection. But again, in vertical spaces, air alone cannot insulate per inch more than conservatively R-0.9, meaning glass

wool would then also have inferred by this comparison a much lower actual R value . A lot depends on what the

accepted values for air really are and at what temperature and composition. Since water is not tested in standard fixtures but the BTU makes

water the basis for comparison,  it is a confusing metric to use a decision tool and is best left to the realm of math where it suits generalities best.

 

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